{"id":712,"date":"2016-07-15T15:30:05","date_gmt":"2016-07-15T15:30:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ngtrains-com.stackstaging.com\/blog\/?p=712"},"modified":"2020-10-31T13:07:21","modified_gmt":"2020-10-31T13:07:21","slug":"credit-cards-and-false-ideas-about-security","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/credit-cards-and-false-ideas-about-security\/","title":{"rendered":"Credit Cards and False Ideas About Security"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This issue is becoming a bit of a bugbear and its clear that some people have got entirely the wrong end of the stick. The conversation goes like this&#8230;&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><em>&#8220;I&#8217;ve phoned you with my order because I don&#8217;t want to use my card on the internet. Its not secure&#8221;<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Well I am sorry but if you&#8217;re paying by card then its going on the internet! Why?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Website-Checkout.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-714\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Website-Checkout-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"Website Checkout\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Website-Checkout-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Website-Checkout-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Website-Checkout.jpg 813w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>If you order online at our website then you&#8217;ll see a form like this. You fill it in with all your name and address details and then press &#8220;Place Order&#8221; and at that point my website shunts over to Barclays website where they have top level security and its their system that takes your card details. <strong>This is secure as it gets.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t see your card details. They never enter my PC. I have no record of them and I can&#8217;t access them.<a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-726 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"WWW\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Barclays send me a `token&#8217; which is basically saying they&#8217;ve checked you&#8217;re good for the money and that I am OK to pack and ship your order. When I have done so I process that token, again on their website and again I don&#8217;t see your card details. At this point they actually take the money from your card and, eventually, send it to my bank account. <strong>All this is done on the internet.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Web-Terminal.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-713 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Web-Terminal-300x237.jpg\" alt=\"Web Terminal\" width=\"300\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Web-Terminal-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Web-Terminal-768x607.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Web-Terminal-1024x810.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Web-Terminal.jpg 1119w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>If you phone me with an order here is what happens. You probably catch me away from the PC or without the PC turned on so your order and card details get written down. When next at the computer I fire up the internet and log on to Barclays <a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-726 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"WWW\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>Web Terminal and enter all those details just written down. I do it on a form that looks like the one to the right.<\/p>\n<p>I am entering all the same details you could be typing in and doing it on, effectively, the same form you could have used and<strong> its all done on the internet\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If you see us at a show and pay by credit card then chances are you will be presented with a gadget that looks like this<a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Card-Terminal.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-716\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Card-Terminal-300x173.jpg\" alt=\"Card Terminal\" width=\"300\" height=\"173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Card-Terminal-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Card-Terminal.jpg 727w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>. This is the <a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Blie.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-736 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Blie-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Blie\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Blie-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Blie.jpg 204w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>latest thing in card readers and its even more `space age&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>First of all the card reader is talking to my phone via Bluetooth which is a short range radio protocol.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Wifi.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-715 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Wifi-150x150.png\" alt=\"Wifi\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a>Next up my phone is connecting to the outside world via WiFi \u00a0which is a longer range radio protocol and is now often provided freely at venues but I also have my own WiFi unit that connects to the mobile phone signal.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-726 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"WWW\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/WWW.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>After all of that the connection is made to the bank <strong>via the internet<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Cash-machine-s.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-739 size-thumbnail\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Cash-machine-s-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Cash-machine-s\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There is no escape. Even if you think, <em><span style=\"color: #800000;\">&#8220;I&#8217;ll use cash! That&#8217;ll show them&#8221;<\/span><\/em>, you&#8217;re out of luck as the cash machine checks with your bank to see if you&#8217;re good for the cash <strong>via the internet<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So I guess what I am saying is that ordering online is at least as safe as any other method and probably safer. There are some simple steps you can take to protect yourself.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Firstly only go to the payments page via the website you are shopping on.<\/li>\n<li>Don&#8217;t go to any payments pages sent in e-mails from people you don&#8217;t know<\/li>\n<li>Check in the address bar at the top of the payments page that the address start https:\/\/ \u00a0[the S is the important bit as it denotes a secure connection]<a href=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Secure-Sign.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-718\" src=\"http:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Secure-Sign-300x34.jpg\" alt=\"Secure Sign\" width=\"300\" height=\"34\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Secure-Sign-300x34.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/Secure-Sign.jpg 326w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>I could probably have used bigger and more technically accurate words and left you\u00a0bemused\u00a0in the process but I think that is a\u00a0reasonable\u00a0layman&#8217;s\u00a0description<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_712\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"712\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" data-prefix=\"far\" data-icon=\"chart-bar\" role=\"img\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" class=\"svg-inline--fa fa-chart-bar fa-w-16 fa-2x\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M396.8 352h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V108.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v230.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm-192 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V140.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v198.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm96 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V204.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v134.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zM496 400H48V80c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16H16C7.16 64 0 71.16 0 80v336c0 17.67 14.33 32 32 32h464c8.84 0 16-7.16 16-16v-16c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16zm-387.2-48h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8v-70.4c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v70.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8z\" class=\"\"><\/path><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This issue is becoming a bit of a bugbear and its clear that some people have got entirely the wrong end of the stick. 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