{"id":4620,"date":"2022-12-23T18:30:44","date_gmt":"2022-12-23T18:30:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/?p=4620"},"modified":"2022-12-30T12:13:14","modified_gmt":"2022-12-30T12:13:14","slug":"hopton-for-carsington","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/hopton-for-carsington\/","title":{"rendered":"Hopton (For Carsington)"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Hopton (For Carsington) \u2013 Henmore Dale Light Railway.<\/h2>\n<p>Those with decent memories will remember the Henmore Dale Light Railway of old. The HDLR is a might have been 2ft gauge line that ran from a standard gauge interchange in the town of Ashbourne in a generally easterly direction along the valley of the Henmore Brook towards the same stone quarries that the Cromford &amp; High Peak served. Along the way it served a creamery and a saw mill. Now the top end of the line would be under Carsington Water.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s the fiction.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4628\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1053\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-300x123.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-1024x421.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-768x316.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-1536x632.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Ashbourne-PR-Plan-2048x842.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The HDLR was the group layout of the Trent Valley Group of the 7mm NGA and was started, using second hand boards, as focus <a href=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-4629 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture1-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture1-1024x682.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture1-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture1.jpg 1601w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>for the group. It grew a bit like topsy and was the origin of the TVG Open Days as we had to rent a hall to be able to put the whole layout up.<\/p>\n<p>It grew as our standard of modelling improved. The Ashbourne Park Road area used second hand chipboard base boards and reclaimed track. First it extended towards Ashbourne exchange and then the other leg towards Winster by which time it was using lightweight boards and hand laid track.<\/p>\n<p>We last exhibited this layout at York in 2013 (just looking that up and finding how long ago it was came as a shock).<\/p>\n<p><strong><u><a href=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-4630\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture2-651x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"286\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture2-651x1024.jpg 651w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture2-191x300.jpg 191w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture2.jpg 751w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 286px) 100vw, 286px\" \/><\/a>Troubles<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve thought a lot about whether to include this next bit or to just gloss over it but in the end I think some understanding of it its required to see the story develop.<\/p>\n<p>So far I mentioned that it all got a bit big and unwieldy. What needs adding to that is a growing dissatisfaction with the layouts mixed standards. The newer bits were fine scale but the stock still had to run over the early bits and the Park Road base boards were showing their age.<\/p>\n<p>Following that show personalities came to the fore and the group dynamic became awkward. One of stalwarts of the group was Tim Allsopp who, unable to work on medical grounds, both stored the layout and did lots to it. I am very wary of writing this as he\u2019s no longer here to defend himself but the layout was more and more becoming Tim\u2019s layout with less and less input from the group. Time would tend to do it his way, If you had a good idea he\u2019d tell you it wouldn\u2019t work and then have the same idea a week later and if he didn\u2019t like your suggestion he\u2019d just ignore it. It was an attitude that risked splitting the group up.<\/p>\n<p><strong><u>Sandy Lane Halt &#8211; Henmore Dale Light Railway <\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There followed a summit meeting where all expressed their views and a new way of working was agreed and a new layout started. This was to be the next chapter in the Henmore Saga and be a simple model of a halt further up the line.<a href=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4627\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1601\" height=\"477\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture3.jpg 1601w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture3-300x89.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture3-1024x305.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture3-768x229.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture3-1536x458.jpg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1601px) 100vw, 1601px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Sadly, it wasn\u2019t the cure we\u2019d hoped and it wasn\u2019t long before Tim reverted to type and the group just stopped working on it. We still met as a group and Tim was still a great friend, excellent modeller and an inspiration. We all just got on with our own things.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture4.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-4621 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture4-300x159.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"159\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture4-300x159.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture4-1024x544.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture4-768x408.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture4-1536x817.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/Picture4.jpg 1599w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>The dynamic really changed in 2018 when Tim was diagnosed with cancer and steadily declined. He was able to see the layout at its one appearance at the group open day in January 2019. Tim passed away in the July.<\/p>\n<p>Much of Tim\u2019s model stuff was left to the group with members acting as joint executors with his brother. The basic deal was take your pick, use what you can, flog what you can. The 2020 Open Day featured a sale of Tim\u2019s stuff and a significant sum was raised which went to a cancer charity.<\/p>\n<p>This all knocked the group for six and there had been no talk of layouts for ages then Covid hit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Covid &amp; the TVG.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Only a fool would suggest Covid was a good thing but in a world of predominantly unpleasant news there was an unexpected benefit \u2013 ZOOM.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/IMG_3789-scaled.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-4632\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/IMG_3789-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/IMG_3789-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/IMG_3789-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/IMG_3789-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/IMG_3789-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/IMG_3789-scaled.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a>The TVG used to meet monthly in the pub. Usually the Brunswick by Derby station. We used to have use of the boardroom so could bring and play with models whilst having a decent beer. The boardroom was redeveloped and whilst we\u2019d kid ourselves it was a group meeting it was no different to meeting your mates down the pub with Tim in his usual spot leaning on the bar. It wasn\u2019t convenient for the shift workers and the more distant members.<\/p>\n<p>What happened with Covid was that the TVG met online using Zoom once a fortnight and we have continued to do that to this day. The format is much the same as a face to face meeting as we all get a beer and take the mick unmercifully but a bit of modelling gets done too. We\u2019ve only missed something like three meets and those were when we were all doing something different on the zoom night. One member tried to restart the pub nights but it didn\u2019t catch on.<\/p>\n<p>As part of clearing all the stuff from Tim\u2019s a members garage became the store and has now developed into a modelling space (albeit a bit too chilly just now). As the covid thing eased a few practical working meetings have been held that have further sorted the Tim\u2019s stuff archive and to strip some of the remaining bits of the old layout for usable parts before consigning it to the tip.<\/p>\n<p>On zoom the group discussed what a new layout would be like if we built one and this refined itself to when we built one and now we\u2019ve started.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hopton (For Carsington) \u2013 Henmore Dale Light Railway is born.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>With bucket loads of hindsight Tim\u2019s demise was a shock that hit us all. Dealing with that and the interlude forced by Covid provided the break the group needed to put the old aside and come back with fresh ideas. Without it, we\u2019d probably not have got round to doing anything.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong><em>The first bits of the new layout will be at the TVG Members Day in Mickleover, Derby on the 28<sup>th<\/sup> of January 2023. <\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #008000;\">The next instalment will, finally, get on to the new layout.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u200b<\/p>\n<table style=\"border-collapse: collapse; width: 100%;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 33.3333%;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.3333%;\"><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.3333%;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/hopton-contd1\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-4661 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/NEXT-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"108\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n<p id=\"pvc_stats_4620\" class=\"pvc_stats all  \" data-element-id=\"4620\" style=\"\"><i class=\"pvc-stats-icon medium\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><svg aria-hidden=\"true\" focusable=\"false\" data-prefix=\"far\" data-icon=\"chart-bar\" role=\"img\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 512 512\" class=\"svg-inline--fa fa-chart-bar fa-w-16 fa-2x\"><path fill=\"currentColor\" d=\"M396.8 352h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V108.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v230.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm-192 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V140.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v198.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zm96 0h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8V204.8c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v134.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8zM496 400H48V80c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16H16C7.16 64 0 71.16 0 80v336c0 17.67 14.33 32 32 32h464c8.84 0 16-7.16 16-16v-16c0-8.84-7.16-16-16-16zm-387.2-48h22.4c6.4 0 12.8-6.4 12.8-12.8v-70.4c0-6.4-6.4-12.8-12.8-12.8h-22.4c-6.4 0-12.8 6.4-12.8 12.8v70.4c0 6.4 6.4 12.8 12.8 12.8z\" class=\"\"><\/path><\/svg><\/i> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"16\" height=\"16\" alt=\"Loading\" src=\"https:\/\/ngtrains.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/page-views-count\/ajax-loader-2x.gif\" border=0 \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"pvc_clear\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hopton (For Carsington) \u2013 Henmore Dale Light Railway. 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